Murray says it’s important to “keep on truckin’ and know that you’re one job away, one room away, one meeting away from everything being different.” She says there’s no difference between somebody who fails and someone who succeeds. “People who succeed have failed just as many times as people who fail but at some point the people who fail give up,” she says. In a profession where so much of your self-worth is tied up in getting a job, Murray says, “You just have to remain open and trustful and enthusiastic if you’re going to embrace the world in a healthy way; I think that you have to be able to go to a place, press the release button, dust yourself off, and move forward with strength and dignity.

The way he listens to music is one of the most endearing and sweet things I’ve ever seen. He takes off his shoes, sets them down and gets comfortable. He kneels or sits in front of the record player, lifts the cover, reverently chooses a record, puts it on, closes the cover and just listens, start to finish. Whenever I go to see him and we listen to music like that, I register in myself how much better it feels than other ways of listening, which are like rushing to eat a meal because you’re super-hungry. You need to eat, just like you need to listen to music, but it never feels good if you do it like that. So I am trying to set my life up in a way where I don’t have to listen to music anyway other than putting on a record and sitting and listening.